Steve "2 Pound"
Forbes looks to fight big against Oscar
By Robert
Morales
There was Steve Forbes, ripping
what would be body shots into the mitt-wearing
hands of trainer Jeff Mayweather.
A well-known boxing writer, not this one, said
that Forbes would be smart to land a lot of
body shots when he takes on Oscar De La Hoya
on Saturday at Home Depot Center in Carson,
Calif.
This was Tuesday. Forbes and Vicente Escobedo
were playing host to a media workout at Pound
4 Pound La Brea Boxing Club in Los Angeles.
Escobedo, a 2004 U.S. Olympian promoted by De
La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, will take on
Roberto Arrieta of Argentina on Friday at Home
Depot Center.
De La Hoya is 35. He has not fought in a year.
Obviously, this was the thinking of the reporter
in regards to Forbes going to De La Hoya's body.
It must be soft. Or at least not as hard as
it used to be.
The thing is Forbes would have a difficult time
hurting De La Hoya even if De La Hoya stood
there and said, "Go ahead, man, take your
best shot and I won't even try and block it."
Sometimes statistics don't tell the whole story
about an athlete. But in the case of knockout
ratio for a fighter, it usually tells a very
accurate story about power. Forbes has nine
knockouts in 38 fights. A good knockout ratio
would be 70 percent. Very good would be 80 and
great would be 90 percent. Forbes' is less than
25 percent. He is a skilled fighter, with no
power.
And just because Forbes (33-5, 9 KOs) is going
to fight De La Hoya at 150 pounds, 20 pounds
higher than the weight at which he won his only
world title in 2000, doesn't mean he is going
to be a harder hitter. Quite the contary. This
is someone who didn't even have power at 130.
Since leaving that weight class for good in
2004, Forbes has two knockouts in 11 bouts fighting
in the junior welterweight and welterweight
divisions.
The guys he stopped were Alfonso Garcia, a tomato
can who came in 6-8, and Julio Cesar Sanchez
Leon. Terrific name, mediocre fighter who was
22-15-1 at the time.
If you listen to Forbes' passionate promoter,
Jeff Wald of Tournament of Contenders, you'd
think Forbes actually has a chance to upset
De La Hoya and a very big apple cart; De La
Hoya has his sights set on a September rematch
with Floyd Mayweather Jr.
"I know from experience there's nothing
on Earth more dangerous than a hungry fighter,
and Steve is a hungry fighter in spite of having
been a world champion, in spite on how he's
done on 'The Contender,' in spite of winning
his other fights," Wald said during a recent
conference call. "He's a hungry fighter
and he want this ..."
Wald was asked if, based on what happened to
Contender alum Alfonso Gomez on April 12 in
his fight with welterweight champion Miguel
Cotto, Forbes had pressure on him to uphold
the honor of "The Contender" as the
second season runner-up on the reality series.
Gomez was not surprisingly out-classed and not
allowed to answer the bell for the sixth round
after absorbing a sound beating by Cotto.
Wald's temperature seemed to rise.
"I think that we're the only company that
gets that question because of coming off the
TV show and people talk about reality,"
Wald said. "The one thing with Gomez is
he never stopped fighting; the doctor stopped
that fight. He was out-matched, no question
about that in that fight. ... But I think Steve
Forbes stands on his own. His record stands
on its own, his accomplishments before 'The
Contender' as a world champion stand on (their)
own.
"The answer is yes. Would it be a thrill
for us and for our brand to have him win? The
answer is yes. But at the end of the day, Steve
Forbes fights for Steve Forbes. He fights for
(wife) Valerie Forbes, he fights for his baby.
He fights for the same reason all of these kids
fight; they fight for themselves and their family.
"We're pleased to have a great relationship
with our fighters and it would be great for
us, too. But the whole thing about us being
embarrassed, we're not embarrassed or any of
that. It's really in the press's head, not the
public's. The public looks at each of these
fights to see if they're competitive, fun to
watch, entertaining, and whether they get their
money's worth."
Bingo.
You know how sometimes people say too much for
their own good? That's what Wald did there.
Did fans who paid their hard-earned dough to
get into Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City get
their money's worth to see Cotto in one of the
easiest fights of his career? Don't think so.
Sure, the Puerto Ricans were probably happy
to a degree because their guy won. But Puerto
Ricans are outstanding boxing fans and no doubt
even they would have liked to have seen something
resembling competitiveness.
And that was clearly absent.
The opinion here is that Forbes is a more talented
fighter than Gomez. He was a world champion
for a short spell, something Gomez will never
be. Whereas Gomez is nothing more than a glorified
club fighter, Forbes at least at one point developed
into a world-class fighter.
Still, Forbes is a little dude. He is 5-foot-7
1/2, fighting well above the weight at which
he was a world-class fighter. It was less than
two years ago that Forbes lost to one Grady
Brewer in the championship of "The Contender."
Grady Brewer? Mr. 21-11 Grady Brewer at the
time.
Yes, the pressure is on Forbes. Not so much
to defend the fighters who were on "The
Contender," but to make sure fans don't
have to sit through another laugher. One like
we had with Cotto and Gomez was enough for the
year. Forbes last week spoke like he not only
believes he can hang with De La Hoya, but win.
"I've already had this over and over in
my mind and dreamed about it," Forbes said.
"He's going to really try to press the
issue by trying to make me believe that maybe
I shouldn't be in there. It's a mental fight,
and then I see me overcoming that and being
smart.
"People are going to see a lot of things
that they haven't seen a fighter do in a very
long time and I'm very confident on that. And
I just see me winning the fight. It may get
a little boring at times during the fight. But
I think for the most part it's going to be really,
really exciting because I know Oscar wants to
excite the crowd. I do, too. ... I want fans
to remember me."
Forbes, 31, went on to say that he will not
be intimidated by De La Hoya in any way, shape
or form. Wald also pointed out that Forbes has
never been knocked down.
Even De La Hoya (38-5, 30 KOs) is doing his
best to sell this fight, which will be televised
by HBO.
"This is going to be one heck of a fight,"
De La Hoya said last week. "I mean, Steve
Forbes, like all my other opponents, are going
to elevate themselves to another level because
they know by having a good performance, by beating
me, they take their careers to another stage.
So, I mean, I think that's what's going to make
it such a great fight is that I know Steve Forbes
is coming with everything.
"Therefore I will be coming with everything.
So I think people are going to really appreciate
this performance from both of us."
You know the part about fighters elevating themselves
to another level because they know beating De
La Hoya will take their careers to another stage?
Talk about deja vu. De La Hoya said almost that
exact same thing in a February 1995 post-fight
news conference. He had just defeated John John
Molina and he was asked about future opponents.
Guess his shtick hasn't changed.
It's simple: If the fans who are paying to get
into Home Depot Center are doing so because
they want to see De La Hoya fight one last time
in Los Angeles, then they will get their money's
worth. The fight will be held in the soccer
stadium the L.A. Galaxy and Chivas USA call
home. There could be as many as 30,000 fans,
and the atmosphere will be very festive what
with everything that is being planned for the
card.
But for those expecting a highly competitive
fight, they will likely be disappointed. Perhaps
very much so. But, hey, this is boxing. Do any
of us think for one second that De La Hoya is
going to risk another giant payday that will
come with the Mayweather rematch by fighting
anyone who can beat him?
Don't think so.